Posted: 19 August 2010

OK, so we can enter numbering in the post press, but what about entering the starting numbers needed for the job? "Starting Number = 000501"

. . . . .  Craig

Craig, use F8. Notes for orders will show up on job tickets.

. . . . .  Hal Heindel



That is how I do my numbering jobs. I use the notes and put the starting number and ending number. Has worked so far. I brought it up but I think Hal said it had something to do with the database. Maybe not too many people use it. What would be really cool is you check numbering and you see a box you would put in the starting number and MF would calculate the ending number.

. . . . .  jerryjfm

I do that also ... just thought it would be a little smoother when you check numbering if a spot for starting number popped up and it printed next to the numbering under postpress vs in the notes.

. . . . .  Craig

Good memory, Jerry. Saving the starting number in a new field outside of 'Notes' would be easy to implement for new installations, but would require the conversion of all existing ones. That's painless if the file doesn't grow over time (such as the press file, for instance), but for quotes and orders, every month of every year would have to be converted, and while that's doable, it comes with risks.

Craig, if there is ever a need to reconfigure those files for something other than starting numbers, we can then change in one fell swoop whatever requests have accumulated. Right now, it's tucked away in our suggestion box - too big a risk for not enough reward.

It would seem logical that the upcoming addition of MyWay pricing would, at a minimum, require new quote and order files. Fact is, it doesn't. User-defined presses and free-form pricing have been an integral part of Morning Flight since day one. The reason we kept it hidden for all those years is because, sooner or later, all estimating will have to be available 24/7 over the internet, via desktop or cell phone. And while print buyers will have an easy time selecting and configuring a product, they can never, ever be relied on to select a press and set makeready and run speed.

Had we introduced Morning Flight with user-defined presses and MyWay pricing first and then tried to convince everyone to switch to product centric pricing later, the resistance would have been enormous. Yes, I know we may have lost customers because some users just couldn't live without the ability to add presses (and, more significantly, tie pricing to a specific press). But, Rome wasn't built in a day, and we're in it for the long haul.

Long story short, save for some minor additions to the press file which will be done transparently during the update, no time related files will need to be changed for MyWay pricing. All existing data files already have all the necessary fields built in and will remain untouched.

. . . . .  Hal Heindel