Morning Flight Gold


Postpress Issue


Posted: 14 Oct 2008 10:09 am


Hi Hal,

Is there a reason why you can't select score and fold for post press? I have times when I need to have the sheet scored and folded but have to set up a My Post Press item in order to get it to work. Also, score on a text weight coated sheet (if it is folding cross grain) would be nice, too. Thanks!
. . . . .  Craig
Joined: 05 May 2005  Posts: 84  Location: Sandusky, Ohio


Hi Craig,

First off, thank you for your recent input on pricing. This morning, I checked copy prices at Staples (8 cents for black, 49 cents for color - no quantity discounts offered). Our default color copy prices are clearly in need of a significant revision in the upcoming version 2008.3.

What would be your thoughts on increasing MF black copy prices from 3 cents to 5 cents for 1-49, but leaving the high end (1,000 and up) at 2.5 cents? And on lowering default color copy prices from $1.25 to 50 cents for 1-49, with the high end lowered from 50 to 35 cents? I know, it's a jungle out there, and not getting any tamer! Besides, lots of technology changes in the past two years. I would welcome contributions from any forum member on this.

Now, about folding and scoring. Actually, you can do both together, provided the paper category is Cover/Label.




What you can't do is score Bond and Text and Envelopes. You're an expert when it comes to the design philosophy behind Morning Flight. Here is some insight (from the Free Edition Help File) for the benefit of readers who aren't:

"If computer applications could be made fool-proof, there'd be fewer shelves with books for "Dummies." But they can be made fail-safe. Well-thought-out programs can incorporate a mechanism found mostly in machinery that guarantees that if the contraption should blow up, it will blow the other way. In Morning Flight, that mechanism is called Data Validation. Its purpose is to keep small errors small and not let them turn into catastrophes. Whenever you enter numerical data, Morning Flight imposes minimum and maximum "validated" values. With Validation ON, the program can safely be used by office staff with limited estimating experience. Cousin Mel can handle the low-end stuff, freeing the shop owner or manager to focus on big-dollar projects. A secondary benefit, of sometimes greater value, is that it limits the size of the hole you can dig yourself that you later have to climb out of."

Not being able to score Bond or Text-weight paper is just another form of Data Validation. It's an area where flexibility and automation clash head on. You know when and when not to score Text. Cousin Mel won't. The work-around, of course, is exactly what you're doing: setting up a My Postpress item.

BTW, hope to have version 2008.3 of all editions uploaded by the end of the week. You know, the version that includes the Booklet Module!
. . . . .  Hal Heindel

I agree the color copy prices are too high by default. Anyone with production equipment will be paying much less for clicks today then let's say 5 years ago. I don't know if the black should be increased though, I would keep it the same. For instance, our old B/W click charge was .012 and our new charge is .003 after an equipment upgrade. The click charges are dropping as the technology changes. I remember our first color copier was .22 (plus toner), now we are at .049 (including toner), that's a huge drop in 13 years.

. . . . .  Craig


Thanks, Craig. If you're comfortable with the default black copy prices, we'll keep 'em as is.

Last night, I surfed the web for the cheapest color copy prices I could find. Seven cents each for 1,000 copies (plus shipping) appears to be the absolute bottom. That, and the click charges you mentioned, makes me suspect the 35 cents for 1,000+ I had planned on using is still on the high side. And to think the national average, in 2007, for 500 color copies via RIP was 52 cents a copy! Prices are dropping faster than derivatives on Wall Street.

I'll decide on the final copy prices by this weekend. Tentatively, the defaults will be 48 cents for 1-49, and 28 cents for 1,000 and up.

. . . . .  Hal Heindel