Print Price Quote without Ink Price


Posted: 09 Nov 2006 07:20 am


Hi Hal,

I've been using Morning Flight for every quotation for several months now, and I'm very pleased with it. I simply like the way it works.

I have also another price calculation application for which I pay 900 euros a year! At the end of the year I will stop using the other application because it's not user friendly at all. I had almost no difficulties changing the MF parameters to have similar price results. As soon as the Gold edition is out I will be the first one to buy it.

Anyway, great work and "chapeau" with this forum, it's one of the best I read, thanks to you and Craig!

I have one question though! Is it possible to print a price quote without ink price mentioned on it? My clients don't have to know how much I charge for ink. Can't it be added to the product part in the quote? You probably did it this way because if there are two or more quotes with the same ink, you can see how much the ink cost is and only charge it ones, when printed all works together.

If it isn't possible, no big worry! Many thanks, Wim (your happy Belgium user)
. . . . . WimDeFour
Joined: 21 Oct 2006  Posts: 4  Location: Belgium


Hi Wim,

First, thank you for your kind words. It never fails to brighten my day when I learn that people all over the world find Morning Flight not only useful, but enjoyable to work with.

I was putting some time into the help system when your message came in. Not sure I can explain why, but every time I finish a chapter or a topic, it feels as if the program is shedding a piece of its shell. Comments like yours tend to charge the batteries. Needless to say, I'm also delighted that Morning Flight is able to save you 900 Euros each year. Can't speak for Craig, but I'm sure he feels the same way.

Assuming you're using the Silver Edition, you can suppress the ink message in Estimates by unchecking the "Show Ink Savings" box in the Estimator window. I have a feeling that's not what you're asking about. Can ink charges be combined with product costs in Price or Quote Sheets? No. Mainly for the reasons you mentioned.

One of the problems with estimates, of course, is that you never know how many of the items you quoted on will actually be ordered. Even if they all are, will the orders be placed at the same time? If not, there may not be any ink savings.

Let me know if I have answered your question. BTW, I stopped in Belgium a couple of months ago on my way from London to Amsterdam. First time through the Chunnel.

All the best, Hal (your happy USA developer).
. . . . .  Hal Heindel


Hi Hal, the happy USA developer, thanks for your quick reply (as usual on the forum).

I see where I made a mistake. I always printed a quote sheet (via print menu). On this sheet the ink price is always mentioned. After reading your reply I realized this was not the proper way to make an estimate quote. With the "Estimate Manager" I can get an actual letter to give to my customers instead of the quick quote sheet. The "ink savings box" is a nice tool to, a customer always likes discounts or savings!

A few months ago, I was looking for an estimate application. It was late in the evening when I discovered the printfire site. My first impression was: this is to good to be true! I read the forum the whole night long, the next morning I started using MF and from that day on I used my expensive application only for reference estimating.

BTW 1/ I wish I could say "A couple of months ago I stopped in Rochester on my way to Niagara Falls", I hope one day I can visit the States (NY state will certainly be the first one!). BTW 2/ Nice to see your passion for Old Cars, Jazz and Photography and Flying.

My passion: 'Fiat 500' (1968'er), Be-bop/ Post-bop/Cool Jazz, Digital Photography. The only flying I do is "Morning Flight"! Many thanks and enjoy writing the manual. It's probably not an easy job to explain everything in a logical way!
. . . . . WimDeFour


Hi Wim,

I see we share common interests: We both have a passion for Jazz and "Oldtimers," as you call classic cars in Europe. If you do get to visit upstate New York, I'd be happy to give you a tour of our friendly city. Rochester doesn't offer the kind of jazz clubs Brussels can serve up, but we do have a week-long jazz fest every year. Wouldn't be hard to find some vintage Coltrane.

As you've discovered, Quote Sheets are intended mainly as supplements to Estimates, to give your customers a detailed breakdown of costs, if that's what you want to do. That's also why ink charges are shown separately on the Quote Sheet, but are included in the price of the Product on the Estimate. The difference between a Quote Sheet and a Price Sheet is that the Quote Sheet reflects discounts and surcharges set for each customer, whereas the Price Sheet always shows the actual prices generated by Morning Flight.

The help system is now at a point where I can let the cat at least partially out of the bag. A web version of the chapters completed so far can be viewed at by Forum Insiders. It will be a few more weeks before I can announce it on the PrintFire web site. Plans are to keep the Help site active for the Free Edition, and to also include a compiled .chm version of it with the program.

Comments are always welcome! Good or bad (especially if bad), we'd like to know.
. . . . .  Hal Heindel